I asked her "What are you thinking about it?"

"MERE SAMNE DO NAAM HAI.
GIRI - LEKIN AAP LOG GIRI KO NAHIN PASAND KARTE".

I had an impression that she was not very keen on that.
"DOOSARA NAAM-BABU JAGJIVAN RAM."

I was taken aback.  Both these names she had given the impression that she was not very keen.  I told her.  "Now it is rather late.  Why don't you discuss this with Kamaraj and Morarjibhai?  They are senior leaders.  Why don't you talk to them. '' I must say at the same time that after my talk with Sanjiva Reddy and after having got the reaction of the Prime Minister about the two names. I had made up my mind that Sanjiva Reddy's name should be formalised. That was clear in my mind.

TVK : Did you discuss the name of Sanjiva Reddy with Prime Minister ? Had you an occasion to do it ?

YBC : I told you about the occasions. She told me, she would speak to Morarjibhai next morning. Immediately there was silence and I thought the meeting was over. The other gentleman was sitting there, and I said, "Good night "and took my leave. I was in no mood to talk, not well.

 Next morning the AICC meeting was to be held at 9 or 9.30 a.m. I was to speak on the resolution which I had drafted. Morarjibhai was supposed to move and I to second it. I had misgiving as to what Morarjibhai was going to speak, because this resolution was imposed on him.

TVK : Why did he offer to move it ?

YBC : The Working Committee accepted it. I think Patil or somebody else said that it was an economic resolution and it was much better if Morarjibhai moved it and Chavan seconded it.  

That morning my mind was more on the resolution than on the Congress Parliamentary Board meeting Morarjibhai spoke for nearly an hour.

TVK : And at variance with the resolution ?

YBC : Yes, instead of speaking on the positive side of the resolution, he gave his own defence for not doing anything.

TVK : About social control ?

YBC : Yes, about social control, that whatever needs to be done is already done, that nothing remains to be done. But that really was a resolution more for the nationalisation of 3 or 4 banks. After my speech I became aware of the 1 O'clock meeting. I hear a talk with Chief Minister Mr. Naik and told him " I hear for the first time that at Mr. Naik and told him " I hear for the first time that at today's meeting the PM is sponsoring the name of Jagjivan Ram. Have you any idea about it ? " He said, " No. I have no idea. Only this morning I heard it because Jagjivan Ram came to me and told me that I should speak to you about it. "I said, "This comes too late. It will be very difficult to support him. At one stage I thought that was the only good name. I tried to find out from the PM and she said, "No."  "Now it is very difficult." He said," I understand your difficulty. "

 About 10 or 15 minutes to 1 O'clock, Yash Kapoor came to me and said, "Prime Minister Aap ke Yaad Farma Rahee Hai", I went - Fakhruddin was again sitting there.  In the two fatal interviews that I had with the PM, Fakhruddin was sitting there.