Shri Y. B. Chavan : To carry on the administration. But it is a completely new process. It is a process of choosing a leader to form a Government. It is a process in which he has to act in his own individual judgement. There is no doubt about it. I have no doubt about it if I understand political democracy and I understand the Constitution properly. In this process he has to act on his own individual judgement. It seems Mr. Bhupesh Gupta has not understood the Constitution. That is all I can say about it.

When he decided to ask the leader of the Congress party, that judgement he took on his ow-it. You can ask why he took that decision. He could as well ask the opposition. While saying that the honble Member used very interesting words - “conspiracy”, “conspirators”. He could say so. But I can also say that they are conspirators in making all these allegations against the Government; they are conspirators. I can also say that but I do not want to say that.

Mr. Chairman : We are not always very accurate about the use of English words.

Shri Bhupesh Gupta : No. We are very accurate.

Shri Lokanath Mishra : A private Member can say that but a Minister should not say that.

Shri Bhupesh Gupta : I say it is a monstrous, political conspiracy perpetrated by you and by your men.

Shri Y. B. Chavan : I can also call you by the same names.

Shri Bhupesh Gupta : I do not mind.

Shri Y. B. Chavan : The point is that there in this matter the Governor went by his individual judgement as he should have.

On the 12th of this month, it was not merely a question of A has refused, he has to take into account what happened after the 4th of March. That becomes a very relevant matter.

Shri Bhupesh Gupta : What happened between the 4th and 12th of this month?

Shri Y. B. Chavan : If he had decided not to make a recommendation for taking over by the President, the only- other course for him would be to ask a Council of Ministers to be formed. Therefore, he decided in view of what happened between the 4th and 12th not to invite the opposition leaders.

Shri Bhupesh Gupta : Why?

Shri Y. B. Chavan : That is what I am explaining all this time...